iPhone 12 Pro Max vs. $2,500 Blackmagic Camera - Krazy Ken's Tech Talk
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How "pro" is the iPhone 12 Pro Max camera? Well, to find out, Krazy Ken pits it against a $2,000 Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K with a ~$500 kit zoom lens. Let's see how well the iPhone holds up!
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Krazy Ken's Tech Talk - iPhone 12 Pro Max vs. $2,500 Blackmagic Camera
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Enjoy the new episode! This was a fun (and wet… and cold) episode to shoot. Also, I'm taking the new M1 MacBook Air for a spin soon! If you haven't, 🔔subscribe for that because it's gonna be a fun one… unless the computer sucks. (Actually, it could still be fun, if the computer sucks.)
Daoud
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What’s the lack mask that dude is wearing. Looks cool and protective.
Computer Clan
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@Transport Evolved Thank you : )
Erlie Bauto
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Apple should call the iphone 13 iphone 13 cons and cons max
Transport Evolved
5 bulan yang lalu
Totally agree with your conclusions here Ken. The BMPCC6k is a great camera. And the iPhone 12 Pro Max looks great too - But each have their now strengths and weaknesses. - Least of which is "do I really want to take my new hotness BM camera out in the rain?" ;)
Fionn McGovern
5 bulan yang lalu
im sure itl be a good computer. i might get the mac mini though.
0:57 its F*king FAIR - you sell it under PRO badge, that means you are competing in the PRO ring... I got fed with all these advertisements trying to openly trick people... 3:20 - HDR this HDR that, but the reality is that there is hardly any difference nowadays, since modern sensors already are capable of pushing those values to HDR standard. It just became of one the post processing filters. Rather to the days when it actually was true HDR. What we called HDR back in the days was merging at least 3 differently exposed images in to one to increase the DR. Nowadays the same results can be achieved simply from one frame... 7:30 - nope, too bad, that`s why the phone has 3 cameras, one is taking an image of the person, the other is taking out of focus image of the same scene, then it blends those two and that`s how its done. But there is the problem, with the DSLR or mirrorless cameras, a photographer controls the amount of blur manually, by increasing distance or closing aperture or even focusing at different point of the subject. On the phone however, the backgrounds are made up using automatic features. Also there is the issue with bokeh deepness, the blur has to be gradual depending on the background behind the subject, the closer objects will look less blurred than the further ones. On the phones however, the whole background is blurred evenly and you can not distinguish which objects are closer to the subjects or and which objects are further away. This greatly effects the quality of so called 3D pop effect, that depends on the sensor size and also on the lenses used. In camera apps only merge two images together to try and mimic the effect of what really suppose to be a good bokeh.
He is talking rubbish. HDR is with 10 bit 422 and Full hd footage possible.
*I finally got my iPhone carrier unlocked permanently with the helped of JAMIHACK9 on instagram he’s great man*
*I finally got my iPhone carrier unlocked permanently with the helped of JAMIHACK9 on instagram he’s great man*
This is all nice but I gotta stick to my LG g8x and LG v40.
At the end of the day, the cameras on most modern mobile phones are fantastic. Ideal for casual and even SOME prosumer use! But it's like cars. But it doesn't compare to a device that is built, from the ground up, with the sole purpose of photography. It's like a car, yeah, Kyle's Subaru CAN be built to go 200mph, but it won't feel as good as a Lamborghini, Porsche, or Ferrari as those cars were engineered to do that kinda thing all day long, from the factory.
What happened to you not able to leave your lair?
No mention of the DOF MK2 adapter? You can get that real depth of field or change lenses on the iPhone with it.
Al P
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@Qlicky Wow. Now aren't you a triggered fellow? You can't even provide anything to prove you're this "professional", of course all talk in hopes that someone will believe you. Anyone can push a shutter button, that doesn't make you a pro. And did I say I was a professional photographer? Am I the one saying it? Well? At least I know more than you, that I can tell. I clearly mentioned the product, it's not my fault that you lack in doing some basic research. Even after you said you searched it, you still failed to understand it and insisted at calling it a "mount". A mount, huh? Even after you described it I can tell you have no clue on what you're saying. The product does exactly what I mentioned, you just didn't want to believe it. You wanted to be that guy to say "It's not real. I know more than you". Of course, when you can't win an argument, just try to quote me, then try to sound intellect as if you owned it. Go play with your GoPro. SMH.
Qlicky
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@Al P You saying I'm not a professional photographer doesn't make not one either. Eh? Would you feel better If I told you Im paid to make photos? But let me summarize this thread: I've given you my thoughts on the topic and all I've gotten from you is (in order): 1. "You make no sense" 2. " Wow. You are special. And no it's not just a "mount" 3. "Stop embarrassing yourself" So far you haven't provided a SINGLE piece of information that would even hint you know ANYTHING about the topic at hand. All you did is some silly, childish digs at me personally. Im yet to se a shred of evidence you actually know what the product you recommended to someone actually is and what it actually does. I can show you plenty of examples of my work, with reviews and gps locations too. Im a photographer, not a youtuber, why would you expect to see my content on a video site when I dont do video? What have you got to show for all your empty words, though? You dont have to answer that actually, I know what your next response will be. Another petulant insult that will still show you have absolutely no idea what I was talking about the whole time. Go figure.
Al P
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@Qlicky Stop embarrassing yourself. Saying you're a "professional photographer" doesn't make you an actual professional photographer. A "pro" without any content whatsoever... go figure.
Qlicky
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@Al P Dude, its just an adapter that enables you to attach a real lens to a smartphone. That's why I didnt know what it was, because Its a bloody lens adapter/mount. Nobody calls glass based lens adapters for old manual lenses "DOF adapters". I am a professional photographer with 2 full frame bodies and plenty of fast, professional grade lenses. Why would I even think of using gimmick like this?
Al P
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@Qlicky Wow. You are special. And no it's not just a "mount". I don't understand why someone that don't understand these things even try to argue. I do have a real camera, but that wasn't my point of the comment. Have you even tried it? Oh, that's right, you haven't because you didn't know what it was to begin with.
Zoom H4n is not super high quality. Its preamps are super noisy
Many here have recognized what I was explaining to my wife recently. It used to be that cell phones had cameras. With the advent of the 12 Pro Max, it's the first camera that has a cell phone.
When will a smartphone be renamed as its no longer a phone which we make phonecalls on. Maybe the Apple iPhone13 will remove the phone functionality. Smartblock tm. Cameras will take up the loss and become cameras that can take phone calls. Now my new Kettle now has a simcard slot an 5G connectivity.... it can boil water and also be a handset with the pour spout to earpiece and the on off trigger the mic. Just put it against the side of your face.
*6 METERS
Skin tone Blackmagic 6k super, but here Iphone 12 no, hurts the eyes
iPhone 12 👎blackmagic 6k 👍👍
Great vid man
Computer Clan
5 bulan yang lalu
Thank you : )
Awesome review. Just curious: why when discussing HDR did you mention shooting in rec709? BRaw can almost reach those ranges... really close.
Apple is not pro at anything anymore it's just "proer"...
My favorite part iddown.info/the/jZnWgMhot8rHpq8/video.html
Great video man! Enjoyed it a lot. Sony cameras offer built-in HLG recording like the iPhone, and I feel it's a totally seamless HDR workflow for semi-professionals when you have a Sony mirrorless as A-Cam and iPhone as B-Cam
vs Nikon D300S
Thank you Now i know 🙏🏽
5 days with the 12 Pro Max iddown.info/the/aZ7Zgbue3Kqoodk/video.html
Great videos Ken. I got a question for you. Any recommendations on external audio support for iPad Pro (2020) and/or iPhone 12 Pro Max? If things get back to normal, I would like to add better audio for recording high school band field shows. I normally record the field show from the highest point in the bleachers and would like to not record people’s voices. Thanks
Amazing in-depth analysis thank you sir
Its a small upgrade from the 11 but no where near a cinema camera or even a descent mirrorless which is expected but is an amazing pocket camera for video. Photo quality is where iPhones really excel. I do appreciate the colour science in the skin tones with the 12. However with that said 99% of users will be blown away with an iPhone camera and have no need for a Blackmagic or otherwise. Average person couldn’t be able to tell likely.
Make sure your lens is clean for best phone results
Good balanced episode. However big sensors can’t compete with the huge depth of field of small sensors. Food pictures in dimly lit restaurants being a good example.
I think the 12 pro Max does 6 meters for 30 minutes
Derek Hegel
4 bulan yang lalu
Correct
You should really put a tempered glass on it
Censorship stabilization -- based on censors? Where do they live, in the US or China? Are they the same censors that you see on Facebook or Twitter? :p
2:15 - "Censor_SHIP_ stabilization"? :-D
1:45 - The only problem with sensor stabilization over optical stabilization is that, as you can see in your example, the "overall picture" may be stable, but you can see the details blur every so often. With optical, the details won't blur, the whole picture will bump slightly - which can be edited out in post by cropping in slightly to give "wiggle room" (literally) for the stable part of the image.
Anonymous Freak
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@ooopepper Not well - but it boils down to the fact that when only the sensor is moving, the light is still "bouncing" in the lens, producing the motion blur bits. When the lens is what is stabilized, the motion blur doesn't transfer to the sensor. Yes, it's not as effective in "whole frame stabilization", but it produces less "sudden short bursts of blur".
ooopepper
5 bulan yang lalu
Could you explain why the sensor produces those effects?
"There's pros and cons to everything." Looking forward to the iPhone Con.
Poe Territory
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@Pqrst Zxerty Wait? People use them to make phone calls?
Pqrst Zxerty
4 bulan yang lalu
iphone 12 is no good at making phone calls as Apple scimpt on the microphone quality to put a better camera in.
Robin Walia
5 bulan yang lalu
It released in 2007
Conversion technology digital edition
Kensored™
very nice
Nice video, thanks. You’d think I’d remember at least some of the 2-semesters during university when I took photography as electives, but nope. lol. Anyway, ordered my iPhone 12 Pro on October 27th and still waiting!? Apparently, only four places in Canada where they can come from and the Chinese are an issue with the new iPhones I’m hearing? The true test for ME is at concerts, something I guess we all don’t need to be worried about for awhile! My iPhone’s camera really sucks with blue & red stage lighting! Lots of bleedthrough and crappy photos overall at concerts. I hope the camera on the Pro is better for this should gigs ever happen again!?
Computer Clan
5 bulan yang lalu
Thanks for watching : )
Your 6K can't export compressed video in HDR, but it can shoot RAW and then you can process that through Resolve to get whatever compressed video format you want. So saying the 6K can't shoot HDR isn't entirely accurate, it just doesn't support recording crunchy HDR.
EFormance Engineering
5 bulan yang lalu
@Computer Clan Okay, that wasn't what I was taking away from the segment. Transfer functions are only really needed to compress the color space to fit the container anyway. I don't see it as a fault in the BMCC 6K that it doesn't have an X-log profile, but rather they simply chose a more robust method. AFAIK, Canon and Sony needed external 4:2:2 recorders to do extended dynamic range because they didn't record 10bit 4:2:2 internally. Is Apple recording in 10bit 4:2:2 or just relying on a compression/decompression transfer function?
Computer Clan
5 bulan yang lalu
I said it doesn't shoot with an HDR transfer function.
I want to make music videos and take some nice photos too, had the iPhone XS before and it was perfect for this but it got stolen this summer which sucked a big one! :/ so I’m looking at the 12 pro and pro max... just don’t know if the bigger phone is worth the extra cash? Awesome videos by the way :))
Computer Clan
5 bulan yang lalu
Thank you : ) By chance, did you have Find My iPhone turned on, so you could track it?
Heeeey, don’t skimp on the intro! It’s great!
Computer Clan
5 bulan yang lalu
Haha. A few people have been pointing that out (even within the last hour! Spooky.) So I had a few complaints about it, so I wanted to try something different-as an experiment. I'll mull it over, but I'm sure I'll bring that line back. : )
Stabilizer is great, but the photo quality doesn't improve very much.
Although it got "Pro" in the name, it's still a ordinary people's pro device, rather than the Pro's pro
Tony Shi
5 bulan yang lalu
I’m a pro photographer. The iPhone is one of my cameras. I take it on longer hikes so I can leave a few lenses at home
Computer Clan
5 bulan yang lalu
That's a good way to put it. : )
That wave part was very funny!
Computer Clan
5 bulan yang lalu
Oh yeah xp
Would have loved to get the pro or pro max but my budget would only allow for a regular 12. I use mine for my videos and even without the extra bells and whistles of the pro models I find it does an amazing job. I’m no professional but I’ve learned to use what I have and can afford to share my videos and passion on retro and new tech.
Image quality is absolutely dreadful on a mobile when you compare it to a proper camera 📸....
Hey where did the "Really, that's just great" go?
74ryanwolf
5 bulan yang lalu
@Computer Clan That line makes me laugh every time, it should stick around!!
Computer Clan
5 bulan yang lalu
Haha. A few people have been pointing that out (even within the last hour! Spooky.) So I had a few complaints about it, so I wanted to try something different-as an experiment. I'll mull it over, but I'm sure I'll bring that line back. : )
Fionn McGovern
5 bulan yang lalu
oh.. my... god.. its gone.. WE NEED IT BACK
K. Cooper
5 bulan yang lalu
Seemed gone for a couple of videos. Maybe 3 weeks ago.
Hi
Our lord and savior Ken has posted a video.
83rd viewer 14th like and 6th comment. LOL.
Hi
First
I am only pro.
Hii